Guaranteed Click Promo - Add Guaranteed Shiny

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Guaranteed Click Promo - Add Guaranteed Shiny

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Wouldn't it be nice if Guaranteed Click Promos wouldn't all be random? What if that last one, the 10th Promo, would be guaranteed to have some sparkles?

Imagine this: You finally manage to reach the goal of 100 000 Clicks - but sadly, none of your Click Promos turned out sparkly. Again. The last 30 over the last 3 events also all were only regulars... while other players around you always have enough luck to get 2 or more shinys, that they gladly share with you, it would feel really nice if you'd finally get a reward for clicking that much. It would feel nice to finally have a Clicking Promo with your own OT. Wouldn't it?

This is my official suggestion to change the Guaranteed Clicking Promos in a way that makes the 10th a guaranteed Shiny. I personally feel like this would encourage more players to try for the 100k clicks, but there would still be trading value for extra Shiny Promos, as not all players will be able to reach the clicking goal, and we still have returning users and new users that might have missed the Promo and want to grab a regular and shiny version in the future.

If you have any feedback to that suggestion or another idea how something like this could be done, feel free to add it here!
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*sighs in 50 promos without a shiny*

Would love a way to get my own shiny. As an OT collector I hate that I can not get those shinies with my OT if I am not lucky enough. And there is nothing I can do to increase the odds (unlike monthlies or other promos where you can work hard to get something)

I think, doing a 11th tier for a guaranteed shiny, where you have to click another 100k would be good. That way you still have to work hard to get it. If you get a shiny in the first 10 you don't have to click for the 11th.

RN I am just hoping for them to return one day in some way x'D
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+1

I've luckily managed to get at least one shiny from all of them so far, except for the Conductor Sneasler. I got one of those from someone who kindly traded it to me, but I agree with this. I do suffer from anxiety, and while clicking doesn't give me anxiety when it comes to these, there is always a twinge or small spike of fear as that number gets closer to the next milestone.

"Is this one going to be the one? Will it be shiny? What if I don't get one at all this time?!" - those are thoughts that cross my mind often during these. And even though I know it's completely RNG and no one decides which one sparkles for who, it still creates this odd pressure that "I need to try harder!!!!!" Even though there's really no trying. There's just clicking.

It's also sad because in a way, it generates a sense of, "Oh, this one's not shiny either." which... can feel like it diminishes the awesomeness that the Regular has. While that's true for every shiny, it's made more apparent by the milestone click adopts. The Easter Bunny adopt has such an awesome design and I love both versions normal and shiny, same as the adorable kitty chef, but the pressure generated by the anxiety, urgency and desperation to get the shiny can give off the impression that the regular gets snubbed.

I love these types of click adopts. Seeing the numbers at the bottom of the CE click screen is always fun and there is a nice thrill that goes hand in hand with that slight anxiety when approaching a milestone. Like slowly climbing a roller coaster. You know its coming and the excitement builds right before the big drop.

But having a surefire shiny at the end of the tunnel would take off a lot of anxiety and pressure and make it truly fun and relaxing.

ETA: Update! For The Holiday promo "Hot Chocopuff" I didn't get any shinys.
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+1. I never was a hunter for promo shinies, but clicking 100k and getting 10/10 normal promos is sure rng but also really frustrating when thinking about the efford we put in. It would be really rewarding when for example an 11th would be shiny guaranteed, like after an additional 25~50k clicks.
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+1 giving my support since the overall amount of clicks for the last promo justifies it to be a shiny in my opinion x D its a lot to do and would motivate more people getting all of the clickpromos.
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+1, I have felt the pain in the past too, sadly :/
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+1, glaceon was my 1st shiny I've ever got from Guaranteed Click Promos...
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+1 support sounds fair …hard work should pay off.
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+ 1 support that would be nice...
I also didnt had any luck on them and it just would be nice to get an own after so many hard work
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Pleeeease, I would totally do another 100k clicks for a guaranteed shiny.
I got no shiny in any of the guaranteed click events. That is 60 (or 70 - I stopped counting) without a SINGLE shiny. How is that possible? ;W;
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+1 this is always so heartbreaking for me to see and it has to STOP !!

I'm cool with the keep things rare stuff but this is not the way it should happen in my opinion
at least give them a real chance I mean c'mon, pleease?~ :(
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+1

This is the second shiny from this kind of event I didn't get and I guess I'm still on the lucky side when I see that there are users who didn't get a shiny ever. That's kinda sad and frustrating :/
The tenth Promo being a guaranteed shiny sounds nice, I also wouldn't mind doing a higher amount of clicks for the last one. This way users who were not lucky enough can still put in the work for the shiny and don't feel like their efforts were wasted.

So yeah... full support for this idea :3
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I need to put a +1 in here too.
Out of all guaranteed click promos I got one shiny version by myself.
Add a 11th one with a high number of clicks or whatever is neccesary, but please I beg you, change something. :|
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+1

After getting my last non shiny Chocopuff i am frustrated and could not agree more with this idea. When people get it on their first clicks und you have clicked 100.000 adopts and still get nothing but the same version that lands in the box with the others, it is extremely underwhelming. I have returned to VA and I haven't been back for long, so I didn't know there are more of these kind. But please make hard work pay off to some extent!

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I seem to be the minority here, but I'm against guaranteed shinies.
I get the frustration with clicking a lot and not getting the shiny, but I feel like shinies should still be something special, not something you already know you'll get after X clicks anyway.
Also, it would put a lot more pressure on reaching 100.000 clicks.
I haven't reached 100.000 clicks for a lot of the clicking promos in the past and I was always fine with that because I knew it was just an additional chance of getting the shiny, not something guaranteed. If it was the other way around I would have felt forced to click to finally get the shiny, even if I maybe didn't have the time or didn't feel like clicking at all ... that would frustrate me a lot more than just having a bit of bad luck with random shinies.
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I do get your point, but I want to elaborate on the available options that we accumulated over time.

Depending on the version that was suggested, either 9 out of 10 promos would still have the chance to be randomly shiny, or 10 out of 10 would still be random, but there would be an additional 11th tier that would be a guaranteed shiny. It does not take away from the chance to be "done" or get multiple shinys way earlier than the 10th/11th promo! I feel like it would be comparable to the new version of the item-hunt-minigame, aka 2022's gift hunt that turned into 2023 candy- and snowball hunt. I prefered the 2023 versions, because I could put in the work to get a guaranteed shiny. The year prior, I felt like I was the only one unlucky enough to not have gotten a shiny in over 80 gifts, and back then the gifts felt harder to get than 2023's candy and snowballs.

Another option that could work would be similar to the recent match promos with a shiny form. There was a hard limit on the amount of promos you could get, shiny and regular seperately. So maybe out of 10 Promos, 2 could be shiny, 8 regular, and it would "only" be luck how soon you'd get what. That way, you'd get one shiny for your collection and one for trading/gifting.

It frustrates me personally way more to see lots of users unable to complete their collections with shiny forms, and to see certain users not be able to get an OT shiny over and over again, than it would frustrate me to feel "forced" to play a game. If I'm being honest, events are usually the time I'm most active on VA - which then equals to the time I get the most randomly hatched shinys as well. One should be rewarded when one invests time into a game, both during events and "regular" playtime.

If something like this will ever be implemented isn't the communitys decision anyway, I just feel like the majority of users would appreciate a change.
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At the end of the day it's all personal preference, but like I said I find guaranteed shinies a lot worse because it "forces" you to keep playing the game when you know that there is 100% a shiny at the end of it and if you only managed to get 95.000 clicks instead of the 100.000 you're just frustrated because you know you missed the shiny.
If you missed the 100.000 but you know you would have only had a chance of - for example - 1/10 anyway, than I find that a lot less frustrating. I had my previous chances of getting the shiny, didn't have luck, that's just how it goes. To me that feels better than "well, you would have gotten the shiny, but you were missing some clicks, too bad."

I think the main "problem" is the way different people see shinies. Personally, I always see them as a bonus. The main goal is to get the regular promo and to complete your collection with those. If you put a lot of effort into it, you even get several of them and if you get the shiny, that's great! But it isn't something you should expect to get. It's just something rare you might get on top.
While others see it as "I put a lot of time/effort into it, so I should get the shiny".
Both are valid ways of viewing it and I don't think there's a perfect solution for everybody... it's just the same thing that gets discussed with basically everything that involves some sort of collecting. There are always rare and hard to get items and some people feel like their collection is only completed if they get every single one, while others complete their collections with those items that are more easily available and see the rare and exclusive things as a seperate thing. I pesonally think that's the healthier way of doing it, but again ... it's all personal preference.
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I too don't like the guaranteed shinies. I feel it takes value away from them.
Remember VA is committing to having multiple releases of adopts as you all have seen. This 'unable to complete OT collection' likely isn't true. You just have to wait for the next go-round. If you get everything on the 1st pass then what do you have left to achieve on the 2nd? Aside from growing a collection you like of course ;D

It feels like if a guaranteed one was implemented it'd be less of a 'omg yay' reward and more like just a job that was finished. I don't want another job. Sure with all the suggestions there'd still be the chance to randomly win the shiny earlier, but then that makes the guaranteed one at the end moot and, again, doesn't feel like a reward and more of a 'I guess I should'. Or, for all those that have 0-chance of 100k clicks in a month like me, just adds stress and de-motivates casuals as the rewards are geared toward only the most active of players. Thus that horrible gap between new/casuals and super-actives'n such, etc, again.


But, if something was to change regarding bettering shiny odds, I don't mind as much the idea of a small increasing chance every time you don't get the shiny version; odds resetting when you do get it. Though, to balance something like that the initial odds should be lowered.
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I have nothing against having a guaranteed Shiny in these types of event-like ones (its the only way I ever get a Shiny since for some reason I can't seem to hatch one.. like.. ever). Doesn't have to be the 10th, could just be random in the 10 promos you get. I like it being random. I disagree with everyone saying it diminishes the Shiny value if all you would get is one. I doubt you would trade that one and if you did, you would be in the minority in doing so.
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I definitely don't think having to click 100k adopts to guarantee a shiny diminishes the value of that said shiny. After all, that 10th adopt is the only promised shiny. That wouldn't mean you don't have the chance to get more shinies other than it. Speaking from Akemie's issue, I think it should be 100% possible for people to get any and all pokemon with their original OT at the very least while that promo is available. Otherwise collections feel completely unfinished and that's incredibly disappointing, especially after someone has clicked those 100k adopts to try to get a shiny promo.

Besides, I highly doubt the majority of the player base goes through all 100k clicks, and a guaranteed shiny would also in my opinion most likely encourage those who don't, to give it their best shot to try.
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