We need to fix the Lottery. Now.

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Or limiting the number of tickets one could buy, might help stop crashing the site. But if there was a limit, then the odds would have to be tweaked for a lot less numbers in order to make it even possible to win with a greatly reduced amount of tickets that can be bought.
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That would work maybe.

Though, that would defeat the purpose of it being a money sink. :s
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I Would love it if we could win everstones.
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noooo Mauwie, too cheap! Unless it is a 1 number prize. But I would love random items being given out as prizes in 2 numbers. which might be an everstone, but might be gracidea flower also.
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Everstones Bought: 4,769
I would benefit a lot by winning everstones :p
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(causally suggests a Diancite prize)
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Diancite would be cool. I haven’t gotten mega stones in a while, are they available to get in quests? I know some people got them as a Christmas present.
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I don't have any knowledge to that either. Yankees, do you know?
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Idea for the lottery:

Work with an extra number, like the real lottery does. Mosty it's a zodiac sign.
If you match 4, you do get the regular one. Have the zodiac sign too? Shiny!
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This is the current prize tier I have in mind.
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Everything you see is guaranteed, except the "faded" prizes for tiers 2 & 3. Those would be a small chance (~5% for promo and maybe 25% for a plate?) at receiving if you matched it. Having a chance to win the promo at 3 matches makes it a little bit easier for less rich players.

To deal with the extremely unlikely odds of matching 5 for the shiny, I am also considering dropping the max number down in to the low 40s...

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@yankeesrule3526 looks more "balanced" than before but i would consider to have a look at Yasha's ideas.
Yasha wrote: January 23rd, 2019, 6:02 pm I totally agree with Karasume, but I can also see KiraNear's point. I propose this two solutions:
A) maximum number of tickets you can buy per draw (e.g. only 100 tickets per user)
B) maximum number of Promos you can get per draw (this was proposed before, e.g. only one Promo per draw and user, with
this is imo a really good way to prevent overfloating Promos.
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B is the better option.
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i prefer b as well. lottery should be a sinkhole for money. that looks more balanced yankees. if you do incorporate yasha's idea, i'd say max 5 per win with the exception of the shiny version... with that in mind, how would you win the big money jackpot?

i'm still not a big fan of winning arceus plates. luci mentioned distributing a random item. i'd prefer everstones... i know mega stones were suggested but i think we should keep them on the rare-er side. it's nice having something to work hard toward.
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mauwie wrote: January 26th, 2019, 10:16 pm luci mentioned distributing a random item. i'd prefer everstones...
What about some kind of coupon you can use to get either one 2100$ item of choice or a pack of 10 everstones from the mart?
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That would be a good idea, but if you won an item you don't really want, you /could/ trade it for everstones to someone else. Probably would have to ask for 50 percent on the dollar or something, but since it was a freebie, not a big deal. Arceus plates are not really something that is needed by most people for more than 1 or 2 drawings, especially if they lack Arceus to put them on. I hope this means they will be released again, but even then, it is easy enough to get plates/swaps from others
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Alright, Yankees. I'll be candid with your idea. Considering everything (the statistical probability of the lottery and the new one you proposed using 40 "balls", the distribution of promos in said lottery, and cash payouts), I believe the table you presented in the image is about as good as I tried coming up with. I didn't readily factor in the shiny being the fifth tier slot, considering the statistical odds for it was astronomical, but it fits.

The only things that could improve this further(from my perspective) is to add random evolution items as a faded option for a 3-match and everstones as a faded option for a 2-match. Possibly adding Mega Stones for legendaries/mythicals as a faded 3-match or guaranteed 4-match.
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OH one thing to clarify. The faded prizes, the money is guaranteed in that tier but the prize is not? Or are both not guaranteed? I would hope that at least people gets the money for those tiers for matching the number needed

Here's an idea...how about instead of a faded promo on level 3, instead doing a guaranteed fossil stone? The fossil stone would have a chance of being shiny, whatever the chances are of them being shiny now. In all these years, I have NEVER gotten a chance to play for Amaura or Tyrunt in the crops, so it would be nice if that was an option that could be won in the lotto.
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i like the idea of fossils as prizes.
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+1 for the fossils. I hate the crops and never play it
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Add another +1 for fossils. Crops is too much of a hassle unless an actual promo is involved.
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